National “DNA warehouse” bill passes

Passing the House of Representatives on a voice vote, S. 1858 has been sent to President Bush for signature. The Newborn Genetic Screening bill was passed by the Senate last December. The bill violates the U.S. Constitution and the Nuremberg Code, writes Twila Brase, president of the Citizen’s Council on Health Care (CCHC). “The DNA taken at birth from every citizen is essentially owned by the government, and every citizen becomes a potential subject of government-sponsored genetic research,” she states. “It does not require consent and there are no requirements to inform parents about the warehousing of their child’s DNA for the purpose of genetic research. Already, in Minnesota, the state health department reports that 42,210 children of the 780,000 whose DNA is housed in the Minnesota ‘DNA warehouse’ have been subjected to genetic research without their parents’ knowledge or consent.”

The federal government lacks the Constitutional authority as well as the competence to develop a newborn screening program, states Rep. Ron Paul, M.D. (R-TX). He states that all hospitals will probably scrap their own newborn testing program and adopt the federal model, whatever its flaws, to avoid the loss of federal funding.

“Drafters of the legislation made no effort to ensure that these newborn screening programs do not violate the privacy rights of parents and children,” Dr. Paul noted.

Ms. Brase has called on President Bush to veto the bill.

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61 thoughts on “National “DNA warehouse” bill passes

  1. I’ve been looking forward to he day when every birth would be acompanied byh a determination of DNA. This will serve to be a major factor in criminal law! I not concerned about the fear related to using the DNA so abtained in research of any type.

    THE PRESIDENT SHOULD SIGN THE BILL ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. Dear Congress,
    This is an invation ao privacy beyond anything that I could imagine. How could you even think of such a thing! The ends DO NOT justify the means!

    Howard Rea

  3. JOSEPH WOOLWICH MD said: “I not concerned about the fear related to using the DNA so abtained in research of any type…. THE PRESIDENT SHOULD SIGN THE BILL ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    Yes, maybe they could use DNA screening to qualify potential MD’s….

  4. Joseph Woolwich, using DNA for criminal law? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? The biggest criminals in this nation are the people RUNNING this nation and I assure you, the elite’s offspring will not be touched and will not be included in any DNA databases.

    And what a great way to frame someone eh? Having all that DNA just sitting there waiting for a purpose? Don’t like how things are but are vocal about it? Woop – a bank was just robbed and they found DNA and it’s xyz’s that didn’t like the administration – well now they can that inconvenient person off the streets.

    I can’t believe you think this is good. Wow. Get your head examined buddy. As for being a doctor, with your limited ability to think critically I believe you are b*llshitting us – you are no doctor.

  5. DNA warehouse, yet another infringement on our rights by the gov’t. Add it to the ever-growing list of violations:
    They violate the 1st Amendment by opening mail, caging demonstrators and banning books like “America Deceived” from Amazon.
    They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns during Katrina.
    They violate the 4th Amendment by conducting warrant-less wiretaps.
    They violate the 5th and 6th Amendment by suspending habeas corpus.
    They violate the 8th Amendment by torturing.
    They violate the entire Constitution by starting 2 illegal wars based on lies and on behalf of a foriegn gov’t.
    Write in Dr. Ron Paul and save this great country.
    Last link (unless Google Books caves to the gov’t and drops the title):
    http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0

  6. Are they trying to create a “master race”..? (works for nothing, eats nothing, feels no pain, has no emotion, kills with impunity and will follow orders with out question?)

  7. This is a violation of our CONSTITUTION!!! Doesn’t anyone out there give any kind of respect to the very contract that protects us as Private/Sovern Peoples or like Slavery do WE just accept IT and let it happen?
    Peace
    Private
    and Sovern

  8. I’ll tell you how we got this far. Look at the post immediately above yours, and you will see what happens when those that have lost all ability and/or desire to think end up relying on the criminals running this country to provide “a major factor in criminal law” (whatever the hell that means). Yeah. “I’ve been looking forward to he day when every birth would be acompanied byh a determination of DNA” too, but unlike the “medical professionals” who say things like “I not concerned about the fear,” I’m finding it really, really scary. In my parents’ lifetimes, we saw people herded into cattlecars at riflepoint and taken away to slaughter. Today (70 years later) “DNA so abtained” will only make it easier to happen again. Thanks, I feel so much safer now!

  9. But don`t forget-america is “a democracy” and “a free country” etc. (LOL) Your wholesome, friendly, ethical government would never do what all those other evil, awful regimes do. Never!

    I have a good idea regarding that woolwich moron who posted here (if this clown`s a doctor I`m glad I`m not sick!)-let`s genetically test and warehouse this bozo and his family. I`m sure they would come up with a reason why they should be exempt.

  10. Do you trust your government not to plant DNA evidence at the scene of a crime (for political reasons, say) if it has access to it? I don’t…

  11. “I’ve been looking forward to he day when every birth would be acompanied byh a determination of DNA. This will serve to be a major factor in criminal law! I not concerned about the fear related to using the DNA so abtained in research of any type.

    THE PRESIDENT SHOULD SIGN THE BILL ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    ^says Dr. Mengele

  12. “I’ve been looking forward to he day when every birth would be acompanied byh a determination of DNA. This will serve to be a major factor in criminal law! I not concerned about the fear related to using the DNA so abtained in research of any type.

    THE PRESIDENT SHOULD SIGN THE BILL ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    ^so says Dr. Mengele

  13. I sincerely hope,
    That when DNA gets cloned in the future test tubes of the likes of you Mr MD And all ,in order to supply society with it “slave/servant” race…

    They will take yours, and not mine,

    Mr: JOSEPH WOOLWICH MD

    I Guess, I love myself to much to give others the power to generate slaves of me, on whatever planet, or future.

    I guess we respectfully disagree.

    TranceAm

  14. The problem, Joesph Woolwich, is the government is the biggest criminal, thief, and muderer of all time and we will never have their DNA.

  15. Re- Joseph Woolwich. This is a perfect example of educated but no regard for common since. To set up a un-constitutional drag net at birth is another gaping hole for abuse. Don’t you get it? To give up liberty for a little security you will loose both. Stupid is what stupid does. Proof read your spelling stupid!

  16. Woolwich,

    I hope that the above post was a joke. Otherwise, I will need to know what city you are in so that I never end up in a doctor who is so willing to tread on the liberties of others.

    Nuts, technically speaking

  17. You’ll be singing a different tune after they set you up for a crime you didn’t commit using your DNA that they acquired without your permission.

  18. Joseph Woolwhich MD… Ignorant, naive, arrogant.

    Apparently a Medical Doctorate has nothing to do with intelligence. Just another trained dog who jumped through the hoops. Glad you’re not my MD.

  19. If I no longer own my DNA and have control of it, what part of ME do I own or control? Why be concerned about any of our rights and freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights and/or the Creator?

  20. That is the most disgusting thing I’ve heard in a long time. WHY? Because it’s against the law. Individual DNA belongs to the individual.

    We are truely living in a fascist state with this sort of thing going on. I heard they’ve been taking newborn DNA for almost 35 years, in secret.

    Watch out for Karma, Congress. The People are watching.

  21. Anyone for this bill is missing a soul and does not belong in the medical profession. No government has any right of ownership to my or anyone else’s DNA. How did you get your MD mr. Woolwich?

  22. The Supreme Court decisions over the years have established that the right to privacy is a basic human right, and as such is protected by virtue of the 9th Amendment. In addition, it is said that a right to privacy is inherent in many of the amendments in the Bill of Rights, such as the 3rd, the 4th’s search and seizure limits, and the 5th’s self-incrimination limit.Amendment 4 – Search and Seizure
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    Stealing DNA for “criminal law” purposes is absurd and unlawful beyond doubt. Research on your DNA without consent is pure evil in itself. This capricious behavior is a detriment freedom and the American way!

  23. This is unacceptable. There should be consent! We cannot allow this to happen. President Bush has to veto the bill. If it passes, I refuse to ever give birth in a hospital.

  24. It’s very easy to imagine that “the government” is always a benign entity. But like the Ship of Theseus, its “timbers” change with time and some can be downright rotten.

    Mr. Woolwich (MD?) thinks that crime fighting by the government will be enhanced by the gathering of a data base on every person born in a hospital in the US. He seems to imagine justice being meted out impartially, and crimes being “solved” with forensic evidence which can only be a partial step in the solution anyway. And what if the criminal is an alien?

    I would consider the government to have dangerous intentions if they were to classify people based on very preliminary knowledge of disease. Those with devastating genetic diseases such as Huntington’s already know about such a dominant trait in the family. Many other diseases can be screened for voluntarily (Tay-Sachs). But because we know little and politicians love to jump on partial or deceptive knowledge there will be horrible mistakes made with this information.

    Why is it that when someone identifies with the powerful, it always seems to be as the protector of public safety? And yet, when we use the word “politician” it conjures up some bumbler. Perhaps we are unqualified to turn over our fellow men to absolute authority, because we mistake it for an all-knowing super-parent. And that’s just plain delusional.

    Veto it, Mr. Bush.

  25. This is just creepy! It is one thing for a parent to request a DNA culture of their infant, but quite another for our government to mandate it. People need to JUST SAY NO! The main thing that citizens do not realize is that they own the government, the government does not own them. Please wake up and get involved in your lives.

  26. Perhaps this warehousing of DNA would have a viable purpose if – BIG IF – there was any way we could trust our government.

    Come on, incompetence has and is still running ramped especially in this administration, and precedent for future administrations have been set that don’t bode well for competence.

    The war we are currently engaged in, where thousands are dying and being maimed for life, was started by, at best, the ineptitude of our government.

    Past track records proves that we are not evolved enough to handle a warehouse of DNA sufficiently to keep that kind of information from corruption.

    Sorry but this voting American citizen says this bill shouldn’t have even passed the House let alone get to where our bumble head of a pResident can pass or veto it.

    So sad where American values have sunk. What ever happened to First Amendment Right to Privacy?

  27. If you like this kind of govt, MOVE to Cuba, or some other communist neo fascist socialist country that you have privacy rights….

    Oh wait we pretty much live in it now;(

    Sad, The corporation of the UNITED STATES…. Evidently must keep track of its employess/slaves.

  28. This is very very dangerous. In Vermont there was widespread discrimination in the eugenics programs of the early 20th century.

  29. “Joseph Woolwich MD”, despite your being a very intelligent individual who is proficient in the art of constructing a coherent, grammatically correct English sentence, you ought to donate yourself to the cause of science! I’m sure they would love to poke and prod at your overdeveloped brain.

  30. We are now at the end of humanity as we know it! How long before the PRE-CRIME laws are adopted??

  31. Apparently Joseph has confidence that our wonderful govt. will use this information for the betterment of society as a whole. He has confidence that they can secure this extemely vital information from being stolen. Forget about the instances of where computers walked out of the SS office other such abberations.

    Are you nuts. So my son is born blood is taken for normal testing. With out consent of the parents they enter it into a data base. I am not talking about blood type etc. The DNA code. Its illegal to question minors without the parents consent or being present but we will wave this requirement. If they give you a form that states do you consent, is that too much to ask?

    So the government now has the DNA. They sequence it, play with it and find out that my son is genetically predispositioned to have something, pick it. Cancer, heart problems, alzheimers, alcoholism, obsiety, etc. Now, just because you are may have the genes, doesnt mean you will get the disease. there are numerous other factors. But now this information gets to the insurance companies, so now he is denied insurance for something that may or may not effect him decades down the road.

    Nevermind the constitutional right to priviacy and the 5th ammendment about being presummed innocent. I am sure some goofball necon idiot will come up with a scientific “genetic” marker that indicates if a person has the capibility of commiting treason or terrorism. Or maybe they have Jewish or Arabic markers so they are branded by our government as one thing or another.

    I cannot beleive that this passed the Senate without any dissent. That makes me sick to my stomach. Of course, they probably wrote in the bill that thier kin are not subject to such laws. Wouldnt surprise me one bit.

    I am off to berate my 2 PA Senators and representatives for this clear violation of my privacy rights.

  32. William Linson said, “OUTRAGEOUS. HOW DID WE GET THIS FAR????”

    — We didn’t fight back. The Supreme Court is corrupt. Congress is corrupt. Many of the state legislators are corrupt. And We the People didn’t fight back. We all sit and watch our liberty circle the drain. And, still, we don’t fight back.

  33. Good thing Hitler didn’t have this technology. I wonder who will inherite the power of law linked to this technology. My brother is right. Time to lock and load.

  34. Haven’t they been illegally doing this since 1972 anyway by collecting blood samples from the feet of newborns and sending it off. That bloodwork is not processed at the hospital. It was not for my children anyway. It was sent to the state. I also had to sign a form right after birth. Where are thos samples housed and who owns them? I’m sure one of you medical professionals can ellaborate to this.

  35. Joseph yeah you’re right, who needs a court of law to determine guilt? If you brushed against a wall before a murder took place your DNA is left, if the murder covered his hands, and head with articles of clothing and left no DNA, you are now their only subject and by your ignorant logic are guilty.

    STFU you facist

  36. Does any one out there remember how the program of extermination started with Hitler? First the political opposition into Dachau, then the mentally deficient, then the criminals, then the Jews, then everyone. Never give any government the chance to decide who is sound and who is not. Or why. When government plays God, it becomes god. You can explain it all away with scientific technocracy, until the knock comes to your door and then it is too late.

  37. ENTER 1984 & GATTACA:

    This is a direct violation the the Constitution and Bill of Rights. This is yet just another legislative form of high treason. Anyone who voted for or signed this bill has violated their oath to office to uphold the U.S. Constitution and should be impeached and removed from office and possibly charged with a felony if indited. This law violates private property rights (your body) and is an invason of privacy. This is very simular to what Nazi Germany did with the unfortunate soles that they were attempting to cleanse from their ideal society. This disgust me as not only and American but as a human being. This could easliy be used as a tool to futher promote eugenics type research. Why any medical doctor would support stealing DNA from unsuspecting parents newborns & other patients without their knowledge goes against the Hippocratic oath let alone theft. Please right your state representatives and congressmen and urge them to repeal this law immediatley. Whats to say they can’t pass a law in the future to kill you just to harvest your organs. China does it now. How deep will you let the government slice you with their scalpel?

  38. I was born 100 years too late instead of 1952 I should have came in a period more to my liking like 1852…All this lost of freedom,liberty, one world government and stars wars tech will be mankinds downfall…

  39. Collection of DNA evidence without a person’s permission or a court order for use in future criminal cases is a violation of the Constitutional safeguard against self-incrimination. I fear Congress is slowly eliminating our rights – warrantless phone taps, loss of Habeus Corpus, and now being forced to provide evidence against one’s self. I fear we are becoming a police stste.

  40. Joseph Woolwich,
    Is that some sort of sick joke? This is NOT something to take lightly.

  41. Mr. Linson, you are foolish in your reasoning and naieve at best. Government is force. Not reason. The “law of unintended consquences” will abound.

  42. i can understand how much is possible out all the research but it should be the decision of the parents to give or not.

  43. THIS WEBSITE IS CENSORING COMMENTS BASED ON ITS OWN POLITICAL/CORPORATE AGENDA.

  44. I POSTED AN EDITORIAL OPINION BASED ON FACT POINTING OUT THAT THE BILL IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THE COMMENT WAS NOT POSTED.

  45. YOU ARE AN UNAMERICAN SITE AND YOU SHOULD REMOVE THE WORD AMERICA FROM YOUR NAME AND REPLACE IT WITH “ELITIST OR GLOBALIST”. I DO NOT ADMIRE YOUR LACK OF ADMIRATION OF THE FIRST AMENDEMENT YOU SHOULD CALL THIS NEWS IT SHOULD BE COINED “PROPAGANDA OF THE DAY”… IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE.

  46. oh and dont ask for comments if you can’t handle the truth… I used no profane language in my comment or threats…. so why were the grounds for censoring my comment. is it because the statements are true or because you have your own political agenda…. don’t worry I take screen shots of all comments I post in case the are censored and then post them on the web on multiple blogs…. such as freedom watch and human rights now… we are change…. etc…..

  47. Pass this law immediately!!!
    Don’t the politicians understand that we’re scared?
    We’re scared of terrorists. We’re scared of criminals. We’re scared of the sun. We’re scared of the rain. We’re scared of dogs. We’re scared of cats. We’re scared of foreigners. We’re scared of the dark. We’re scared of drugs. We’re scared of people of differing religions -which means each other. We’re even scared of each other.
    Won’t somebody help us???!!!!!

    Who cares about privacy, rights, ethics or personal dignity.
    We just want to feel safe!!!

    Save us, Oh Great And Wise Government!!!!
    Save, Oh All Powerful and Merciful Government!!!

    See how TSA has made flying 100% safe?

    Arrest our neighbors without warrants. Perform medical experimentation on our kids. Steal our blood. Steal DNA. Do whatever you want, but please do it to keep us safe!

    Oh…Mah…Gaaah! Is that criminals I hear? I’m soooooooo scared. Somebody call my Congressman!!!!!

  48. I agree with Mr. Linson- The last generation to pass lived during the end of WWII. Dark days aren’t coming, they are here, right under our noses. Who can honestly tell me there is one federal politician without dirt on his/her hands?!! Brace yourselves.

  49. I am continually shocked and appauled by the horrific crimes our government is allowed to carry out. I am even more concerned about the people who are going along with things like this basically out of fear or greed. I am however, greatly comforted in the knowledge that nothing happens outside of the sight of God. I stand firm in my faith and await the day in which Our LORD and Saviour will hold accountable those who oppose God and His holy laws. Yes, evil is thriving in the world today. But, the Kingdom of Heaven is near!! “Our redeemer lives and in the end He will stand on the Earth. Every knee will bow before the maker of Heaven and Earth. The wicked will perish and stand condemned already.
    Grace and Peace to you. Love will conquer a multitude of sins.” In the mean time, protect your children as best as you can, live a blameless life amoung all, do good and not cause harm…let the peace of God, which surpasses worldly reason, be your guide. And stand up for your rights while you are still able to do so. Wake up people!

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